Right now, I wish to make a case for doing unhealthy work. As a perfectionist, I do know this isn’t one thing you wish to do. You wish to do solely your greatest work and have it replicate what you might be able to. However for those who aren’t prepared to do unhealthy work, you’ll by no means get good.Â
It’s important to know this idea as a perfectionist entrepreneur. I clarify the idea on this episode, together with sharing some examples from my very own experiences with my enterprise. I additionally focus on what occurs whenever you do unhealthy work and how one can help your self in studying this new strategy.
For those who discover you’re having a tough time beginning and ending issues, this episode is for you.
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Introduction
Hello, and welcome to a different episode of The Perfectionism Challenge, a podcast stuffed with perfectionism recommendation for entrepreneurs. My identify is Sam Laura Brown. I assist entrepreneurs launch their perfectionism handbrake to allow them to get out of their very own manner and construct a satisfying and worthwhile enterprise. I’m the founding father of the Perfectionists Getting Shit Finished group teaching program, which is in any other case referred to as PGSD. And for much more perfectionism recommendation that will help you with what you are promoting, you possibly can observe me on Instagram @perfectionismproject.
Sam Laura Brown – (Begin of episode)
Right now, I simply wanna make a case for doing unhealthy work. As a perfectionist, I do know this isn’t one thing you wanna do. You don’t wanna do unhealthy work. You wanna do your greatest work. You need it to replicate what you’re able to, how good you might be, how a lot potential you’ve gotten.
You wanna get it proper. You wanna do it excellent. You wanna make an incredible first impression. You don’t wanna make a mistake. You don’t wanna fail.
I get it. You wish to do good work. You don’t wanna do unhealthy work. However for those who aren’t prepared to do unhealthy work, you’ll by no means get good. So this instance sorry, this podcast episode is an ideal instance of this idea. And it’s kinda why I needed to document it as a result of I didn’t wanna document the episode immediately. I’ve recorded a couple of. That is the third one I’m recording, however I didn’t wanna document the episode. I had a variety of resistance, simply perfectionism normally.
I don’t know what to say. I’m not feeling actually clear about issues. Identical to my mind simply desirous to not as a result of it’s susceptible to place out a podcast episode. Each time I’m doing that, I’m having to expertise my very own ability stage, my very own notion of myself, my very own ideas about myself. I’m imagining the response that I by no means even get to actually see, particularly with the podcast.
There aren’t any likes. There aren’t any feedback. It’s actually all in my creativeness. However once I’m truly doing the work, I’ve to expertise issues that I don’t must expertise once I’m not doing the work, once I’m serious about it, once I’m resisting it, once I’m considering it, once I’m avoiding it. I get to keep away from sure emotions or, like, experiencing myself in a sure manner that may not match up with the id I’ve of myself.
So my mind desires to keep away from doing work normally, however particularly doing unhealthy work. And what I’ve achieved to construct my enterprise is let myself do unhealthy work. That has been my secret. That has been how I’ve been in a position to overcome the perfectionism that was crippling me and debilitating me is that I’ve once I have a look at how I constructed my enterprise, what I’ve achieved is I’ve created security to do unhealthy work in order that I may get good in order that I may truly develop the abilities. As a result of and not using a willingness to do unhealthy work, I both wasn’t doing the work and avoiding or I used to be attempting to do it completely and I used to be practising the unsuitable factor.
I used to be practising attempting to say it proper. I used to be practising attempting to have this excellent method or to not make a mistake versus training instructing, teaching, promoting, advertising. So doing unhealthy work is the way you get good. And with the current PGSD launch we did, certainly one of my mantras as a result of I wrote so many new emails that we despatched out throughout the launch. And my mind, like, it simply particularly throughout a launch when so to be clear, that’s a time that enrollment for my program, perfectionist getting shit achieved, is open.
It’s open for 1 week. So my mind likes to go to, like, this must be excellent. All of the episodes must be excellent. This sort of like all or nothing mentality of any single piece may make or break your entire launch. Like, each little e-mail, each podcast episode, each submit may make or break it, may damage the entire thing.
And so each little piece must be excellent. And if I can’t get it excellent, then we shouldn’t do it in any respect. It’s higher to not do it than to do it badly. And so my mantra all through the launch was unhealthy promoting is healthier than no promoting. It’s higher to promote it unhealthy.
And by that, I imply, to really feel unskilled, to really feel clunky in what I’m saying, particularly once I’m speaking about new issues just like the momentum mission for the launch. I used to be speaking about that. New ideas round that that I developed that I haven’t talked about as a lot as I’ve talked about different issues like energy planning and clear relaxation and the expansion aim that I can discuss in my sleep, that I’m doing one thing new. I’m studying and rising in that manner. And it’s higher to try this badly than to not do it in any respect after which to simply stick with what I’m comfy with and what I’m very aware of or what feels good for me to say as a result of I’ve stated it so many instances that I’ve refined it.
However initially, for instance, energy planning is such one. After I began speaking about energy planning, I didn’t have the phrases to articulate it. I used to be nonetheless, like, fleshing out that concept and that course of and what energy planning is and the steps. And so I simply let myself discuss it badly. And the extra that I talked about it badly, the higher I obtained at speaking about it.
And I’d say one thing after which somebody would ask a query, after which I’d be like, okay. Effectively, what’s my reply to that? After which I’d say extra. And it’s identical to letting myself truly communicate, letting myself truly do issues is how I obtained so good at promoting it and the way I obtained so good at instructing it as properly and the way it’s now such a transparent and easy course of. You study it inside PGSD that will help you plan correctly as a perfectionist and get your perfectionist mind working for you rather than in opposition to you.
Did that each one come? And the outcomes that our purchasers have created from energy planning have all come from me being prepared to speak about it badly, to show it badly, to do it badly at first when it was simply one thing that I used to be doing myself in my very own enterprise, and I wasn’t instructing it to anybody else. I let myself undergo the messiness of figuring that out. Okay. What do I do firstly, and the way do I truly help my perfectionist mind?
Like, what edits do I must make to all these totally different productiveness instruments I’ve discovered so it truly doesn’t set off my all or nothing mindset and doesn’t make me procrastinate. And so I used to be prepared to do it unhealthy in order that I may get good. And I’ve talked about this with the podcast notably. I feel it’s as a result of the place it’s the place I’ve been essentially the most prolific, and it’s simply such an incredible instance of this and proof of this, is that at first, I recorded 2 episodes every week as a result of it supported me. It helped me really feel secure to do it unhealthy as a result of I knew, properly, if this one’s shit like, that is actually what I stated to myself.
If this one’s shit, then there’s a brand new episode coming in a couple of days, and it’ll, like, push it down the checklist of episodes. And I used to be teaching a PGSDer on this not too long ago that she was saying that she was having a tough time creating Instagram feed posts, that she may do tales comparatively simply. However for her, when it got here to the feed posts, identical to it was feeling so everlasting and, like, such a giant deal. And I do know a variety of perfectionists expertise that with something that feels extra like everlasting, say if it’s one thing like writing a guide or like creating a bit of artwork versus one thing that by the character of it’s extra fleeting like an Instagram story the place it disappears after 24 hours and it’s identical to the tradition round it’s that it’s a extra informal really feel. It’s much less polished.
That actually helps help us to not have our perfectionism handbrake on it. Not that there aren’t perfectionists who’ve a very arduous time recording tales as a result of that’s positively the case. However she was discovering with the feed that the best way she was serious about it was in her thoughts, primarily, like, she needed to do it completely as a result of these posts have been gonna be right here eternally. And likewise as a result of she was making a low quantity of posts, I feel she was doing possibly, like, 1 submit per week, that it meant that if she was doing say, even when she posted for 12 weeks, for 3 months, all of these posts would nonetheless be proper on the prime of her feed. So it felt like such a giant deal to submit something as a result of it’s gonna be seen it’s just like the considered it’s gonna be seen by so many individuals for therefore lengthy, so this must be actually good.
It then makes it a lot tougher to create something good due to all of the stress that’s being placed on that. And so we don’t have as many inventive concepts. We overthink what we’re saying. You may discover that you simply create it, like, 80%, and you then don’t truly publish it due to this versus having the ability to set issues up of, like, okay. I’m gonna do unhealthy Instagram posts, and I’m gonna do a variety of them.
And we educate this inside PGSD. There’s an Aligned Advertising and marketing Workshop that may actually help you with this. However actually having the ability to say, like, by way of having a low stress motion plan, an motion plan that lets you create with out a variety of stress, usually, nearly at all times that includes making a excessive quantity of content material. As a result of when there’s extra quantity, there’s much less preciousness about every particular person factor. Like for me, for instance, I really feel a lot much less valuable about every podcast episode as a result of I do know that there’ll be so many extra to come back that these episodes, although, like, my mind remains to be like, like, is that this episode gonna be any good?
All of that. Then I’m like, okay. However future me is gonna hold recording. So this episode, whether it is shit, like, in 2 years to come back, it’s gonna be actually arduous to seek out. And even in, like, a couple of months to come back, you’re gonna must scroll and scroll and scroll.
So whenever you create the next quantity of content material, it’s a lot simpler. I used to do that again within the day with running a blog as properly once I created extra weblog posts or extra YouTube movies. It was a lot simpler than once I was attempting to do few however higher. I don’t advocate a couple of however higher strategy for perfectionists. If there’s one option to flip your perfectionism handbrake on, it’s attempting to do a low quantity of top quality work.
That can make your all or nothing pondering simply come on like nothing else. That in case you are having to do solely a small quantity of actually good issues, it’s so arduous since you’re barely getting any follow to even get good at what you’re doing to even enhance your abilities. And it seems like every thing you do is a take a look at of whether or not or not you’re adequate. For those who’re an artist, for instance, it’s a take a look at of whether or not you’re truly good at artwork versus if it’s like I’m gonna paint 10 various things and I’m gonna choose certainly one of them to promote versus I must create one factor to promote. A lot tougher.
So having the next quantity means that you can get these repetitions in so that you could truly do sufficient unhealthy work to then be capable of get good, to do sufficient follow, and to really feel safer fumbling round whilst you’re doing it. It’s a lot simpler when there’s a larger quantity of labor and whenever you arrange the circumstances that basically help you to really feel secure doing unhealthy work. So I truly did an episode let me simply discover which quantity it’s. Episode 484, tips on how to create the emotional capability to publish imperfect work. That was a very standard episode, and it’s chatting with this similar thought as properly.
And that is an thought I’ve spoken about so many instances on the podcast as a result of it’s so important to know this as a perfectionist. And so I’m gonna say it in all of the other ways so that you simply even have the, not simply the mental understanding of it since you may have already got that, however you even have the willingness. You may have the emotional capability. You may have the flexibility to do unhealthy work, particularly to do it publicly since you is likely to be prepared to do unhealthy work in personal. And I’m not saying you need to publish every thing, however to be prepared to do unhealthy work publicly, it’s actually important.
I don’t suppose there’s any profitable entrepreneur who has solely achieved good work publicly, so to talk. Their notion what I’m speaking about right here is their notion or your notion of the work. So to the skin, it would seem like and I do know there are podcasters who’re like, each episode is nice. However to my mind, that’s not the case. So what I’m speaking about right here is my very own notion of whether or not the work is nice or unhealthy and your individual notion of whether or not the work is nice or unhealthy.
And I discuss it in that episode as properly. I extremely advocate listening to that, episode 484, that you simply’re not the perfect choose of whether or not your work is nice or not. And that’s one thing that basically inspired me to simply choose up the mic and document the best way I do know greatest, which is that each time my mind has a thought that, like, this isn’t clear sufficient, I’m simply rambling, these episodes are the episodes I get essentially the most constructive suggestions about. It’s the episodes the place I’m attempting to get it proper, the place I’m attempting to say the best phrases or meet a sure method that I is likely to be feeling like I’m good and I’m saying it proper, however it’s not connecting the best way that it does once I simply truly let myself present up and follow in public and share the issues that I do know immediately that I do know are gonna be useful. And so I wanna encourage you to do the identical factor.
So what I wanna have you ever serious about is how one can help your self to do unhealthy work. What circumstances are you able to create for your self in order that it feels secure, or safer not less than, to do unhealthy work? Once more, this usually will contain creating the next quantity of content material. And for those who have been somebody like, most perfectionists, for those who have been petrified of burning your self out, you’ll in all probability wanna take the, properly, I’ll do fewer however higher strategy that I’ll submit on Instagram as soon as every week. It’s truly simpler to submit 5 instances.
As a result of for those who’re like, okay. I’m gonna submit as soon as every week. That’ll take me an hour as a result of that submit must be excellent. That is what’s occurring in your mind. This submit must be excellent as a result of I don’t submit that always, and everybody’s simply judging me based mostly on this one submit.
So I want to verify it completely represents who I’m. It completely articulates my concepts. It has the right name to motion, the right graphic or picture. Possibly I must analysis a bit extra concerning the algorithm and what I ought to be doing from that. It’ll let me have a look at what this different particular person’s doing.
Like, that’s time consuming and really draining versus okay. Say I’m gonna take that very same hour, and I’m gonna create 5 issues in that point. I’m gonna batch collectively. I’m gonna go into my digicam roll or into Canva or wherever. I’m gonna create 5 graphics or no matter manner you do it.
I’m gonna simply document 5 movies, 5 Reels or possibly for those who’re gonna do Reels and it’s like a a speaking to the digicam 1. And that is once I I had a day a few years in the past. I used to be like, I’m gonna document. I truly discovered that, I don’t suppose I knew it was twins but, however I used to be pregnant. And I used to be like, I don’t know with the it was my second being pregnant.
I used to be like, I don’t know with the the primary trimester when that’s gonna the signs are gonna begin, and so I simply wanna get a bunch of issues recorded for Instagram immediately. And I simply went round to totally different locations in the home and I put some totally different outfits on, and I recorded, I feel it was, like, 60 reels that it was identical to me speaking to digicam. And I used to be identical to, okay. What’s one thing that I discuss on a regular basis? I’ve stated it a 1,000,000 instances on the podcast or on a training name.
And, like, let me simply say that factor, and I’m simply gonna create so many who I don’t must publish all of those. I’m simply gonna, like, say a variety of issues. After which after the very fact, I can look again and choose it versus possibly like, hey, I must say the right factor. And I’ve had instances the place my perfectionism hand break has been on with that and it’s like, it takes me 3 hours or an hour to document one reel that’s 90 seconds versus when it was the strategy of I’m simply gonna create a lot of it, and it’s okay if it’s actually unhealthy. And if it’s tremendous unhealthy, I don’t must publish it, however I’m simply gonna let myself say the phrases.
And what I discovered was, and this comes again to being unhealthy so you possibly can be good, so to talk, is that a number of the concepts I had was like, oh, that doesn’t like like, I haven’t totally fleshed that out sufficient or no matter. However then it could spark a special thought. Like, okay. Effectively, I may discuss this factor or I may take half of what I used to be saying and simply have it’s centered on that. Or I may say this different factor.
Okay. It simply spurred so many concepts versus once I was attempting to do good work, it ended up being unhealthy. It ended up being unhealthy as a result of I used to be so in my head, overthinking it, procrastinating on it, a lot resistance to beat, a lot judgment as I used to be creating, a lot judgment after creating, a lot judgment after publishing if I did handle to really publish it. Doing unhealthy work so you will get good is the key. As a result of for those who for those who attempt to do good work solely, as a result of as perfectionists, that’s what we attempt to do, solely good work, you’ll find yourself doing unhealthy work since you don’t have sufficient follow to get good or as a result of the work by no means even will get achieved.
You both don’t begin the work, you don’t, like, keep it up with the work, otherwise you don’t end the work. And I might name that unhealthy work, so to talk, if we wanna have a look at it that manner. A cause that perfectionist, we regularly don’t end issues or for those who’re particularly if as properly, I’ve had a variety of questions on ADHD not too long ago. And what I’ve discovered from now we have a variety of PGSDers who’ve ADHD and there are a lot of perfectionists who’ve ADHD that perfectionism actually exacerbates any ADHD signs you may need. And a variety of the perfectionism indicators and signs are related as properly.
So, for instance, a perfectionist could have a tough time, usually, and it might manifest in numerous methods, however, usually, a tough time beginning issues and a tough time ending issues. As a result of for those who begin one thing, then it won’t be nearly as good as you had imagined it to be. There’s this entire, like, particularly for those who’re somebody who identifies as being good and clever, having a variety of potential, that beginning is a susceptible act. As a result of when you begin it, you need to expertise your self doing the factor. It’s a must to truly see for those who’re good at it.
It’s a must to expertise feelings that is likely to be uncomfortable. And for those who’re a perfectionist, you’re in all probability fairly disconnected with the way you’re feeling and what’s occurring in your physique. Most likely dwell up in your head like a variety of my purchasers do. And myself talking from expertise, that’s the best way I’ve labored and I’ve needed to do a variety of work to really get linked with how I’m feeling and what’s occurring in my physique. However beginning work as a perfectionist is a susceptible act.
Additionally ending work, additionally carrying on with work. However whenever you end work, then it’s like so long as it’s not completed, there’s this hope of, like, what could be achieved to enhance it, of how good it will likely be as soon as it’s completed, of, oh my god, as soon as I do end it and it’s so good, right here’s how profitable it’ll be, or, like, all of those various things. Versus whenever you truly end it, it’s a susceptible act as a result of then it may be acquired and judged by others and by your self as properly. A lot of perfectionism is attempting to keep away from judgment from our future self, who’s gonna say it’s not adequate. Who do you suppose you might be?
Like, we’re attempting so arduous to keep away from that. So ending issues brings up that self criticism and that self judgment. So does beginning issues. So does avoiding issues. Like, that is the irony of perfectionism.
We’re attempting so arduous to keep away from disgrace, and but, we really feel ashamed concerning the avoidance that goes together with perfectionism. Some perfectionists have a tendency in direction of the overworking, the overpreparing, however, in the end, they’re avoiding emotions. They’re nonetheless avoiding issues. It simply seems extra productive from the skin. They’re avoiding reference to themselves.
They’re avoiding uncertainty and attempting to arrange issues in order that there’s no uncertainty. There’s nonetheless avoidance for all perfectionists as a result of we’re attempting to keep away from disgrace, and there’s a lot disgrace in avoidance. And, like, for me as a perfectionist, that has simply been such a giant unlock once I realized that of, like, oh, like, I’m attempting so arduous to keep away from disgrace, which is rather like this sizzling feeling in my face and my coronary heart fee going up. Like, it’s not truly that unhealthy. However I really feel ashamed by means of, like, attempting to keep away from disgrace due to how I’m displaying up and it not being in line with how I’m viewing myself and what I do know I’m able to, and that feels shameful.
So not less than if I’m doing the unhealthy work and displaying up and giving it a go, then even when I find yourself feeling ashamed, not less than I’ve some constructive issues occurring with it. I’m growing abilities. I’m growing confidence versus if I’m desirous to keep away from disgrace and I do this purely by means of avoidance and never displaying up. And for me, that basically is how perfectionism in enterprise has proven up essentially the most is avoidance, procrastination, overthinking, which I actually suppose is procrastination as properly. We overthink in order that we don’t must do.
For those who’re pondering, you then’re not doing. So for me, that was a giant manner that it has confirmed up. It’s by means of avoidance, and I simply felt ashamed concerning the avoidance, however I wasn’t then growing the abilities. I wasn’t then truly getting to extend my information as a result of actual information comes by means of studying by means of doing, by means of taking motion, experimenting, placing your self on the market, displaying up. So you need to be prepared to do unhealthy work so you will get good, Otherwise you received’t do any work in any respect.
All of the work you do it’s simply such an fascinating factor to consider, however the work you do may really feel good to you, however it received’t be properly acquired. Or you possibly can have achieved much more of it with loads much less power. We are likely to suppose extra work, extra power. No. Like, you possibly can have truly simply let your self present up freely and create.
And that nice outcome that has come from doing the work, you possibly can have much more of that. So letting your self do unhealthy work so you will get good is the key to overcoming perfectionism and constructing a enterprise. We gotta have you ever set issues up, and we did this not too long ago in PGSD. I taught an idea known as the momentum mission. I went by means of, in a workshop creating that, and I taught tips on how to set it up so that you could really feel secure to do unhealthy work.
You possibly can really feel secure to really do the issues wanted to do to create momentum in what you are promoting. You can be crippled by needing to solely do good work. And for me with the podcast, when if I’ve to do podcast episode, I don’t wanna do it. If I can do a nasty one and if I’ve permission for myself to not publish it even whether it is unhealthy, like, whether it is unhealthy, nice. It’s a lot simpler with the episodes I’ve recorded immediately.
Like, if it’s shit, I simply I received’t publish it, or I can simply, like, have it in my again pocket and I’ll do it sooner or later and have it exit. However I’m simply gonna let myself create and see what occurs. And so right here I’m with 3 manner higher podcast episodes that I’ve recorded immediately than if I used to be attempting to do it excellent and get it proper and subsequently not doing it in any respect, or having it meet a sure standards that makes it really feel good to me, however truly doesn’t assist you or join with you. So with that stated, I invite you to do unhealthy work so you will get good. It’s the one manner.
I really like the mantra that unhealthy promoting is healthier than no promoting. Dangerous advertising is healthier than no advertising. Dangerous writing is healthier than no advertising. A nasty exercise is healthier than no exercise. A nasty something is healthier from the attitude of that’s the way you enhance it.
If that’s one thing you wanna enhance, doing it unhealthy is healthier than not doing all of it. And that entire perfectionist mindset of if I can’t do it properly, I’d somewhat not do it in any respect, That must be damaged to have the ability to have a profitable enterprise. It doesn’t burn you out. As a result of there are such a lot of examples of people that would say I feel Steven Butler’s one. He talks about, like, having a lot consideration to the small print and, like, being so perfectionistic and pedantic about little particulars and why that’s so necessary.
However that for a perfectionist is a recipe for burnout, a recipe for being so unhappy and so unfulfilled and so disconnected and simply not having any sense of freedom as a result of it brings up that perfectionist pondering. As a result of particularly for those who’re in gilly phases of what you are promoting, you don’t know what particulars want to really be meticulously centered on. You haven’t discovered sufficient, which comes by means of taking, like, unhealthy motion, so to talk, doing unhealthy work. You haven’t even discovered sufficient to know what attractiveness like. You haven’t discovered sufficient to know which particulars truly matter.
Sooner or later, when you’ve gotten an empire, it would make sense to consider that. However if you wish to have the ability, particularly for those who’re not but full time in what you are promoting or making a full time revenue, or for those who for those who battle with burnout and also you simply wanna truly be capable of construct a sustainable enterprise, creating permission and a framework for your self, setting issues up in a manner that you are able to do unhealthy work so you will get good is completely important. In any other case, you’re simply not gonna do shit, and all of the avoidance is gonna be unhealthy. It’s gonna really feel worse than the unhealthy work. The disgrace that comes with that.
The disgrace that comes from avoidance, I might say, is is worse than the disgrace of the unhealthy work. So let your self be prepared to expertise that. I like to recommend episode 4 84. I’ve achieved a couple of totally different episodes. I imply, this is without doubt one of the major themes that I discuss.
We discuss it loads inside PGSD. All the things in PGSD in addition to the software of energy planning, the expansion aim, clear relaxation, every thing’s constructed that will help you get into the mindset the place you’re truly not simply understanding that that you must do unhealthy work so you will get good, however having you truly being prepared to try this. So I wanna invite you into PGSD. We’re opening for enrollment on the finish of January. Date’s but to be confirmed, however we shall be opening for enrollment.
You will discover out extra about this system at samlaurabrown.com/pgsd. It’s a productiveness program for early stage entrepreneurs that will help you overcome perfectionism and take constant motion in what you are promoting with out burning out in order that what you are promoting can develop, so that you could attain your potential in what you are promoting. So, once more, samlaurabrown.com/pgsd. It’ll be within the present notes. That’s the place you possibly can go to join the wait checklist, discover out extra about this system, get all the small print so you will get prepared to hitch us inside.
However I hope this episode has simply impressed you to do some unhealthy work immediately. And, once more, you don’t must publish it, however simply, like, not less than let your self do it unhealthy somewhat than pre-empting that it’ll be unhealthy and so not doing it in any respect. You is likely to be stunned what you discover. With that stated, I hope you’re having an attractive day, and I’ll speak to you within the subsequent episode.
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